3 X 07 Not In Portland
Yeah, I know…. the episode was good. But you can’t stand before me *arms folded* in defiance because I’m still holding back the Lost parade until we see more like this.
1. Hey Juliet, I don’t think you’re in Portland anymore (helllooooo, another blatant Wizard of Oz reference)! I actually was very worried about a Juliet backstory but this was so well done that I am starting to see the possibilities of her on the beach. However, how much more can there be to her story beyond what happened once she got to the island? I’m actually much more curious to see her get back to her sister.
2. What a sick, twisted woman. She gives fertility treatments to her dying sister? Twisted! Maybe she has some sense of how sick this is (they show her crying on the beach back home in the beginning). Maybe she knows that Rachel won’t carry full term (as she said about the mice) and is giving her some hope for a baby (mind over matter = survival?).
3. Why was Ethan around Rachel’s room? Why did it look so much like the barracks on the island (just to trick us into thinking they were on the island?)? Juliet acted later like she didn’t know Ethan but surely had seen him around Rachel’s apartments.
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4. Meaning behind the name *Rachel* (Surprise! Another biblical reference): Rachel and Leah were two sisters married to Jacob. Jacob loved Rachel but Leah was the older sister, so he was tricked by their father into marrying Leah first, then later he married Rachel for love. Leah had many children before Rachel was able to conceive. She eventually had two sons, Joseph and Benjamin. She died in childbirth while giving birth to Benjamin. (Now we just need Leah)
5. The producers of this show must really hate CD’s because there are record players everywhere! I mean, you can get a decent CD player at WalMart for $20 yet they all play records.
6. Before I saw the front of this lamp I thought it was a Dharma symbol as it is the same shape. Then I found this screenshot. Ying and Yang. Symbolic of Juliet and her sister or more likely the two sides of Juliet’s personality?
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7. OK, I’m not a violent person but come on! If I had to see Sawyer get punched one more time I was going to have to…. well, I would do something! So I was relieved to finally see Sawyer fight back. I mean really, this is your tough guy and he just sits there when he’s being executed, no way! And banging Danny’s head against the electroshock button! HA!
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8. These are almost identical to the vials on the island. What I question is that if Juliet was using these to get her sister pregnant why give them to Claire who was already was pregnant to term. Why give her the drugs? What more is there to know about the fertility treatments? Perhaps because there were different colors of liquids (i.e. kinds of drugs) on the island they were injecting Claire with some sort of super-hormone that gives the baby superior intelligence or basketball skills. Just kidding. Trying to see if I lost you yet with this tangent.
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9. I question Juliet’s taste in men! It must be the perception of power that she likes. First this guy then Ben?
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10. I was glad that Jack ratted out Juliet to the Others in the surgery. I actually believed that she was shocked. Then, later in the show, I started rethinking this idea. Did Jack and Juliet set this scenario up? When Mr. Friendly tells her to stitch up Ben Jack jumps in and says she can’t, she’s not a surgeon. I don’t believe that Ben told her to help Kate & friends so why would I believe that Juliet didn’t know exactly what Jack was going to do? Jack *supposedly* makes another incision (ewww, spinal juice!) on accident and asks Mr. Friendly to help? He’s a genius surgeon, he doesn’t make mistakes like this. I think he was buying time for Juliet.
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11. I would say it’s safe to assume that this is just the experiment island and not where the Others live. This puts me in mind of the whole Jurrasic Park idea of the main island where the successes live and the *other* island where the experiments take place.
12. This scene is where the writers/producers slip back into dumbing down this show. Kate grew up tracking (remember the story about her dad?) and we are to believe that she trips when running from the bad guys? Luckily Sawyer, the big strong man, was there to help her up. Plus, isn’t this soooooo cliche that the woman trips when running from danger. *ugh*
13. Look to the right side of the screen. It’s a sailing trophy. What if Ed is Libby’s ex-husband? Libby told Desmond that he was dead. I’ve heard that Libby will be seen again in someone’s backstory. Maybe here is the Libby-Juliet connection.
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14. Alex. She is quite a shot! Who is this kid? If she’s Danielle’s daughter AND Ben’s daughter, but Danielle said that the Others took her baby, WHO is Ben? Is Ben one of the
scientists that came with Danielle to the island and did not die from the sickness which leads us to believe that Danielle has the sickness. That would explain why Ben is so vehemetly opposed to Alex going to the *big* island…he doesn’t want her to meet Danielle and find out the truth of who she is. And why haven’t any of the survivors that have met Alex put this together? It’s an island, you are deserted, how many Alexes can you possibly come across?
15. So Ben wakes up during surgery. Who *is* administering the anestheia anyway? How could this happen? Another one of Juliet’s pre-planned events? She could come back later and say “Ben, you woke up and told me to save them” and how could he argue? She could convince people that he was out of it and told her to go and rescue them to save his life.
16. MITTELOS = LOST TIME We were told by Carlton Cuse that there would be an Easter Egg coming in the form of an anagram that would signify a theme on the show that will begin to take shape this season. I still question any type of time rip or time continum happening, but is it possible that there are places on earth that due to magnetic force (in our case) *time* could actually move differently? Maybe a day on the island could equal a year on the mainland. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Could they actually be going backwards in time (think of the music Hurley and Sayid heard on the beach)?
17. Is there anything real about this guy or his presentation? They “really are that happy” -meaning the people in the slides, and they arrange hiking, etc… trips every week (yeah, sure they do!).
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Does this happen on the island?
So very photoshop’ed (Not that I would know, hee hee!)
18. Could this be Sun’s test results? He says she’s only 26.
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19. Sawyer is obviously a Star Wars fan. He tells the “guard” (can’t remember his mane) that he fell for the old Wookie Prisoner Gag, calls Hurley “Jabba” and refers to Jin as “Chewy.” Is he representative of Han Solo? Ooh, who will be Darth Vadar - Jacob? lol
20. Carl. This scene was sooo disturbing. First, easy number reference, Carl is in room 23. My first thoughts were, and I said to Scott, it’s like A Clockwork Orange! Ironically, the main character of CO is Alex. Anyway, they use a technique called The Ludivico Technique to *cure* him of his violent nature. The scence in the movie is strikingly similar to this one. More info if you click here.
21. So what is flashing on the screen? Here are some screen shots. Click any to enlarge:
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(there is a series with the squiggly light in them)
22. I chose to put these seperately because you can clearly see the DeGroot guy in these:
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Could he be Jacob?
23.  Danny tells Juliet that Ben would rather die then let them go. Is that why Juliet kills him? She knows that he would tell The Others this.
24. While Jack is doing the surgery back in the *hatch* he asks Mr Friendly (I like this much better than *Tom) why they didn’t take Ben to a facility if they can get off of the island. MF starts to answer “Because… ever since the sky turned purple we…” and doesn’t get to finish. I’m thinking they are stuck. They mentioned in a previous epi that the COMMS were down, too.
25. Too funny! When Jack is doing the surgery MR(Tom) is grossed out by blood. So Jack holds up a bloody mass and says, “Then I guess you don’t wanna see this!”
26. Loving the old Sawyer being back! Carl says “Danny” and Sawyer turns around to find Danny pointing a gun at him. THIS TIME (thank you very much) Sawyer has the “Ill kick your a$$ look” and heads straight for him. Luckily Juliet kills him (that sounds weird) but no matter, at least he didn’t back down like before.
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27. Portland, not just in Oregon! There are two *Portlands* in Australia, too.
February 14th, 2007 at 12:48 am
Regarding #2: Check out this thread on the Fuse. I asked Gregg Nations about the issue of Rachel trying to conceive while she was — ostensibly — dying of cancer.
#12: Ugh, hadn’t even thought of it that way. Hopefully, it wasn’t intended as such.
#16: Ooooh, good catch! That’s VERY interesting.
#20: It was totally a la A Clockwork Orange (one of my favorite books/films)!
February 14th, 2007 at 1:58 pm
#2 Hm. Sometimes things are exactly what they seem on the show and sometimes they seem very obvious but are so mired in layers it’s hard to know the *truth.* Edmund did tell Juliet that she would either be in legal trouble for her research or revered so I suppose it’s possible the treatment is what is making her sick. I guess believing that it’s cancer shows the level that Juliet will go to for her research. But, I guess it if it’s what is making her sick then that is twisted too.
#20 I’ve not read the book, I’ve only seen the movie (own it, love it). Talk about twisted! But if they are trying to rehabilitate Carl it’s to the same effect as Alex.
February 15th, 2007 at 12:02 pm
#2: If it IS cancer, than I’d like to learn more about Rachel’s motivations. Why would a woman who appears to be close to death, or at least VERY ill and potentially terminal, actively try to become pregnant? She not only would risk her own life and her baby’s, but — even if she were miraculously able to carry to full term and the baby was somehow without complications from the chemo or radiation — she could still die, leaving the baby motherless. All of these risks would make her a very selfish person, IMHO — so I’m clinging to the idea that it wasn’t actually cancer, but the fertility treatments themselves. At least till w e find out otherwise.
#3: Isn’t it funny? Alex from A Clockwork Orange, and Alex, Carl’s girlfriend/Danielle’s daughter…
February 15th, 2007 at 8:54 pm
#23–if they are indeed stuck on the island, that means michael may be coming back.
February 24th, 2007 at 5:23 am
As far as the whole Danielle - Ben - Alex thing goes, my sister and I had this theory that Danielle was part of dharma, just to her they weren’t the others. I mean, come on, she went to the island with a team of scientists. All the dharma people are scientists. Maybe they heard the distress call, got on the island and were amazed at the possibilities for research and stayed. At one point though the main dharma people must have decided to stop the whole project thus they stopped to send replacements to push the buttons and so on. But some of the people didn’t wanna quit and stayed on the island to continue their experiments. To Danielle who might have agreed with quitting people like Ben would be the “others”.
Or over the fight on whether to stay or leave, Ben and them killed the people in Danielle’s group (like Danielle said) who wanted to leave. Ben couldn’t kill Danielle, because she was his wife, he just left her on the main island by herself but kept their baby.
However, what does not make sense is what Danny and Tom and all those people are. They do not give the impression of being scientists.
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