5 X 02: The Lie
Could Jacob be Alvar Hanso? I was thinking about the way we saw him the first time from the window, turned sideways. I know this doesn’t really pertain to this episode, but in trying to make links between old and new information this possibility came to mind.
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1. I was also thinking back to some unsolved issues. Like the cages that Sawyer and Kate were in – I know they were for the animals, but what were they doing with the animals and why? And the landing strip that Kate and Sawyer were helping to clear rocks for – another plane coming to the island? Is this where the O6 will land, conveniently, when they come back? Kate’s airplane – did she forget about it? She robbed a bank to recover so why wouldn’t she be obsessing if she hadn’t taken it home with her? Will we ever see Libby’s connection to Hurley in the institution? There are so many for them to wrap up!
2. I was also thinking back to when Ben was looking at those dolls that Annie had made for him and Richard comes in. Ben asks something to the effect of “You remember birthdays, don’t you Richard?” Has Richard harnessed the healing power of the island to also maintain his youth? I like sci-fi and I’ll buy into the time travel, but never aging is going to be a hard sell to me.
3. I have more thoughts but I think I’ll save them for the next post after the recap.
4. So the O6 has been off of the island for 3 years. I can’t imagine that the Losties are going to have to suffer for three years with time moving. Remember that Walt had amazing growth and the writers promised they would explain why. Well, if Walt was off the island for years he would have grown quite a bit. But, if that same time frame was island time it would have only seemed like days. So time off the island is moving much faster than on the island. The O6 come back after 3 years but the Losties only think they’ve been gone a few days to a week.
5. Hurley tells Sayid that someday he’ll need his help but he won’t get it. But Hurley goes through great lengths to help him back home. Change of heart or foreshadowing?
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6. Ana Lucia tells Hurley not to get arrested. Hurley purposely gets arrested to avoid Ben. I guess we’ll see what kind of ramifications that decision has.
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7. Must pay homage to the shirt.
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8. Sun is up to something. It’s too convenient that she was in such a hurry to make her plane and then right after Kate goes on the run, Sun shows up! Does she blame Kate somehow for Jin’s death? Is she really trying to help Kate or is she setting her up for some future purpose?
9. Ben’s secret box. Reminds me of when Miles visited the lady whose spirit he talked to, he took something out of the air vent also (but I think his was money). Why was it in the vent – someone must have placed it there before Ben showed up.
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10. Ben tells Jack that he’s never coming back once they return to the island. Is Jack really OK with this? I guess outside of his mother we haven’t seen that he has anything left to live for at home but wouldn’t Jack be looking for ways that he could bring them all back home? Jack seems too heroic to just accept that they will all live happily ever after on the island, which makes me think he’s got his own plan. After all, we don’t know what he planned with Juliet before they left.
11. I’m not convinced that anyone is really out to kill Hurley and Sayid. I think they were hired by Ben to scare them and send them right into his trap for the O6 to get them to agree to go back to the island.
12. Jill tells Ben that Gabriel and Jeffrey have already checked in. The flight crew perhaps? Ben then goes on to defend Jack and his drug abuse. Wow, a little empathy from Ben. Not sure outside of his daughter we’ve seen Ben express true feelings (of kindness, at least).
13. Vincent! The one character the writers have promised will live to the end. But with Vincent, there always comes trouble and sure enough, flaming arrows coming their way.
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14. That was some crazy arrow shooting at the Losites. The Others were violent but not like this. Had to be the hostiles and my guess would be it was from the distant past. I wonder if the dead Losties bodies will time travel or since they died in that time then they will stay there?
15. “Why is there a dead Pakistani on my couch?” Hurley has the best family!
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16. Sun really is not the person we thought she was. I think back to The Glass Ballerina and that Sun blamed the maid for breaking the figurine knowing that she would lose her job. I don’t know if she really expects Kate to kill the attorneys, but she wants her to “take care of them.”
17. Watching the scene again where Hurley tells him mom the whole truth about the plane and the survivors makes me question how more of the actors on this show don’t get Emmy or other award nominations. I’ve watched a lot of the other shows that get nominated and most of them don’t sustain the believability or momentum that Lost has. I watch Jorge and Jeremy Davies and they are so great in this show. Yes, a few of the actors have been nominated (and won, yeah!) but not enough in my opinion.
18. NOW we see hostiles! Wow, cutting off her hand “just because.” And dang it Sawyer, take their shoes!!!
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19. Loving the hot pocket thrown at Ben. That thing was hot too, that could have hurt!
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20. The cloak and dagger outfit was a little silly here. But the dichotomy between the science and faith was interesting (science in the basement, faith upstairs). Mrs Hawkins comes across as a leader in the way she speaks to Ben and he reacts.
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January 25th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Did anyone else find it strange that when Kate asked Sun about her daughter, Sun showed her a baby picture? They have been off the island for 3 years. Why doesn’t she have a recent picture of her? Has she been traveling for that long? I don’t think I’ve ever met a parent that didn’t carry around a recent picture of there child. I know I have my daughters in my wallet. ….Just thought it was strange…… Any thoughts?
January 26th, 2009 at 1:40 am
#11. I agree completely. The guy shot at Sayid from 10 feet away several times and missed. He wasn’t out to kill him, just to scare him. Ben totally hired those guys, just like he hired the people to show up at Kate’s door.
#15. Agreed.
#17. Agreed.
(Not that I don’t agree on every point, but I just really like those specific ones)
January 26th, 2009 at 9:23 am
“Could Jacob be Alvar Hanso?” This got me thinking (again) and I decided to look up the meanings of the names, because everything has a meaning! Alvar means elf army/warrior, which in itself is interesting, but most interesting (to me anyway) is Jacob which means supplanter, supplant “to displace and substitute for another” “to usurp the place of, especially through intrigue or underhanded tactics”. Cant wait to see how it all works out!
#17 I agree that more of the actors should get nominated, but in this scene, even after watching the events, I didn’t believe him! It was done in a childlike way (good acting), which spoke of his mental issues which is why I think his mum said I believe you. Even if she didn’t, she didn’t want him to feel like no one understood him.
January 26th, 2009 at 11:14 am
I have been bothered by Kate’s airplane since that episode aired. It has to have some significance.
Remember the polar bear that Charlotte found in the desert? Similar to Ben? Maybe they were using the animals to test time travel?
They have also never answered the two dead people in the cave – Adam & Eve with the black and white stone.
January 26th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
AND they never showed if Jack made that putt when they were golfing, and (I think) Sawyer made a bet with Boone for two bottles of sunscreen!
Some questions, I’m afraid, will never be answered.
January 26th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
18.”NOW we see hostiles! Wow, cutting off her hand “just because.” And dang it Sawyer, take their shoes!!!”
I think those guys are part of the black rock crew
January 26th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
By the way, did anyone get the feeling at the end of the show when Ben talks to Mrs. Hawkins that there was a mystic sense of the occult there mixed in with modern technology? The hooded outfit she was wearing, the candles the pendulum and the computers all made it seem like she was practicing witchcraft as much as science. The way Ben talked to her was different than the way he talks to the other “Others.” He seemed almost reverent. It also makes me think about what Dan said that time can’t be changed. She went back and told Desmond that same thing when he got tossed back in time after the hatch imploded. But if time can’t be changed, then why would she have to go back in the first place to make sure Desmond didn’t give that ring to Penny and make sure he gets to the island. It kind of supports what I said earlier and what Dan may have meant when he told Desmond he was unique – that Desmond can change things. By the way, because she does travel around in time and spends time living in different time periods, she could have actually been born years after Ben. She could now look older than Ben because of so much time spent in other time periods, so who she is could be a real mystery. One last thing I’ve thought of. I keep going back and forth as to whether or not Mr. Widmore is a part of the DI. But one thing that supports that he isn’t a part of the DI is the food drop to the Swan Station in season 2. Obviously, the DI still knows the location of the island (or did at that time before they “moved” the island) since they are able to make that food drop. So if Mr. Widmore was a member of the DI, he should also know where the island is located, but he doesn’t. I’m not so sure if those guys in the Army uniforms were the “Hostiles.” Those were Vietnam or earlier issue uniforms. But it does answer Anna Lucia’s question as to how a 20 or so year old Army knife got on the island.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:56 am
#1 — well, we know they were weighing the polar bear’s poop for some reason (after what “Dr Candle” threatened Hurley in the Hoth epi). Plus he seemed to think it all rather silly from the way he said it. Perhaps many of the other “experiments” being done on the island were just Dharma “covers” for the few things they were *really* doing there.