5 X 03: Jughead
Most of what I wanted to say, I said initially. I had to go back on Wednesday and watch again even though I was dead tired at work the next day. Probably in my top 10 favorite episodes.
1. The title “Jughead.” We know that the bomb was called “Jughead” but there has to be more significance. I still think that the leaking radiation has something to do with why women can’t carry babies to term. Maybe Dan, Charlotte and Miles are the last babies conceived on the island so they are special. Since we know that the island has healing qualities, we have wondered how Ben got a tumor on his spine. He was probably working too close to Jughead and was exposed to small quantities of the radiation. If Dan hadn’t have shown up and told them what to do with it, what would they have done with the bomb? Maybe all of this has happened before and Jughead represents a serious problem that could not have been fixed without Dan so all of the events must happen this way. And unless all of the events (starting with the plane crash) happened then the island may not have been been there.
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2. The American government is coming in 1954 to the island. Why do they want to kill the “Hostiles?” Couldn’t they have just rounded them up and put them in a prison camp? Are we sure it’s the government or perhaps ex military? Keemy and the gang looked to be military also but weren’t working for the government. Maybe it’s a “Hatfield and McCoy” scuffle that has been going on for hundreds of years and not just Ben Vs. Widmore.
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3. So it’s Oxford University and in the 10 – 20 years in between when Des met Dan on campus and now they haven’t cleaned up the office for other use? Or, did Dan *just* abandon the office right before he left for the island and it hasn’t been long enough to get it cleaned out? If that’s the case, there must have been an incredible offer to just leave all of his time travel research like that. Maybe *someone* convinced him to leave (like, say, Widmore)? From the state of the office I’d say he left in a big hurry.
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4. Dan tells Miles and Charlotte that they just have to hang tight until everything disappears but can’t predict when. What if it’s every 108 minutes that they travel? I’m thinking that the numbers might come in play here as to how the time shift works.
5. Watching back, Juliet doesn’t know how far in the past they are so how does she know to ask if Richard is at the camp? I just don’t want to believe that he’s really, truthfully “very” old but how else would she know he’d be there?
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6. Locke can’t shoot “Jones” because he’s one of his people. Remember that Juliet was branded for killing Pickett (the guy who was going to kill Sawyer and Kate) so it must be against their rules to kill one of your own. Keemy also broke the rules when he killed Alex.
7. It does look like Teresa is the same girl that is in the picture, but the picture is old (check out Dan’s mullet). Dan doesn’t seem the type to leave someone behind that he cared for so again, something must have happened to make him just take off and then Widmore to take care of Teresa in his absence.
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8. I can’t make up my mind about Ellie. Dan is walking with her and she tells him to quit looking at her to which he apologizes and tells her she looks just like someone he used to know. She does look like Teresa (see picture above) but it also could be because he realizes he’s talking to his mom.
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9. Widmore was on the island as a young man (at least probably about age 18 if not younger). He probably thinks as well as he knows the island that he’s the one that’s going to take over as the leader. Then along comes Ben. Ben is groomed to be the leader. I’m guessing somewhere along the way Widmore is exiled from the island. Now he holds a grudge against Ben for that and because Widmore is obviously a hot head (breaking the neck of his colleague who tells Juliet where the camp is). But he hasn’t been to the island in at least 20 years so I wonder if at some point he had come back after his younger days as a solider. Perhaps he stayed for quite a while. Maybe Ellie was the love of Ben and Widmore and that had something to do with it (we know how Ben falls madly in love with women and wants them all to himself). I think this all speaks to where the rivalry between Ben and Widmore started for the island.
10. I found this arrow theory from Doc Jensen very intriguing and something I had not caught:
My “Arrow” Theory. Adam mentioned this in his recap. Have you noticed the recurring arrow symbolism this season? Episode 1: Pierre Chang produces the orientation film for a Dharma station called “The Arrow.” Episode 2: The Left Behinders are attacked by flaming arrows. And now, Episode 3: Arrows everywhere, in the text (see: the Others’ archery brigade) and the subtext. A leaking or missing hydrogen bomb is known as a “Broken Arrow” event in military parlance. In physics, the “Arrow of Time” is the name of a body of theories pertaining to the nature of time; the term “broken arrow” is used to characterize an idea like time loops. Google “broken arrow” and you’ll get any number of movies, TV shows and songs about Native Americans… and wouldn’t you know, “Jughead” was a peek into the past of the Island’s indigenous peeps, the Others. But the coolest arrow connection comes via the Other cutie with the shot gun, British accent, and terse line readings: Ellie. Short for Eleanor, which is French for “the Other.” (Or so wikipedia tells me; I don’t speak it. Me stupid American.) On a whim, I combined “Ellie” and “Eleanor” and “Arrow,” and came back with an awesome connection: Ellie Arroway, the heroine of Carl Sagan’s novel Contact, which was adapted into the Jodie Foster film of the same name. I’m going to leave it to you to explore the significance, but Sagan’s story certainly resonates with Lost themes, and perhaps functions as a clue to wormhole theory. Link to the whole article here
February 1st, 2009 at 11:56 pm
I have a question and maybe someone had mentioned this before & I missed it. How is Locke on the island moving back & forth in time AND in LA dead?
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:59 am
Hey Jenny. They ones who are left on the island are moving back and forth through time. Sometime during all that, Locke manages to get off the island, but we don’t know how yet – Richard is supposed to tell him how but didn’t get a chance to tell him before they shifted in time. But I’m assuming Locke manages to get off the island and appears around the 3rd year that the O6 have been off the island. When Richard was taking the bullet out of Locke’s leg, he told Locke that he would have to die to get the O6 to return. In this weeks upcoming episode, they see Kate on the island. This may be because they go back in time before the O6 left the island at a time when Kate was still on the island. Who knows? But Mrs. Hawkins told Ben he has 70 hours to get the O6 back to the island or all hell is going to break loose.
February 2nd, 2009 at 7:12 am
Jenny, we are seeing what happened immediately after the O6 left (on the island) so Locke is still alive. The adventures of the O6 that we see is 3 years after that. So we haven’t seen yet how Locke dies.
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Repost… Jughead’s Time Police was a series that began in 1990 featuring Jughead as a hero of the 29th century and a member of the Time Police, an organization that ensures history to remain the same for the future’s sake. In this series, the beanie gives Jughead the ability to time travel by thinking. With his supervisor, Marshal January McAndrews, Jughead repairs disturbances in the past.
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Events (some) of 1954:
-US tests Hydrogen bomb on Bikini Atoll in the Pacific Ocean. Russia tests theirs later that same year.
-Eisenhower gives his Domino Theory Speech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domino_theory
-First flight of the Boeing 707
-Bill Mummy from Lost in Space is born.
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:41 pm
#4 – I’m thinking that the time shifts happen at 4/8/15/16/23/42 min apart? Like a ripple in time… moving further and further away (a longer & longer duration). As I recall, there was one time shift that happens with one shortly after (just after Locke is shot). That could have been the 15/16. I’ll need to go back and count the number of shifts that happen just before and after. If this is true, someone would need to know this so maybe that is why the scientist in the insane asylum, the radio beacon/etc keep replay it.
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:51 pm
#8 – Dan’s mom… I like that.
February 4th, 2009 at 3:07 am
This doesn’t have to do with this episode. But I have wondered who Mr. Widmore knew that 815 crashed on the island. Remember the show where Claire put a note on a bird’s leg and let it go? I’m thinking that some of Widmore’s people got that note. We know his companies does scientific research of various types. The pregnancy test that Sun uses was made by Widmore Industries. Maybe tracking birds is another one of his projects. Considering he lived on the island as one of the Others, he’d know what birds visited the island and maybe he was tracking them as one means of finding the island. It’s still pretty much 50/50 as to whether it was he or Ben who put that plane on the bottom of that trench. But this would put a few points towards Widmore as being the one who did it.
February 4th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Jin is back!!! And found by Danielle’s team!!! Wow!!!
April 20th, 2009 at 3:23 am
Okay… so I can’t stop searching on the “Jughead” thing and I run into the interesting article… here’s a link to the page I want to reference:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,1550612_20245769_20255326_3,00.html
Specifically, look at the part starting with “The Great Smokey Dragon of Lost”. I remember an interview once way early on (like season one DVD extras) where the creators said everything was supposed to be explainable. I kinda gave up on that especially last and this season. Way to magical/mystical. However (read the article) but everything could still be explainable at least in this far-fetched sense (once again, read the article). Specifically the paragraph starting with “Wheeler was opposed to pseudo-science — supernatural stuff like psychic phenomenon — and yet he championed a concept that to ordinary folks may sound very mind-over-matter weird.”
Things that make you go hmm…