5 X 08: LaFleur
Thanks everyone for your excellent comments. I’m writing my initial thoughts around 11:00 at night which is late for me since I have to get up early for work the next day (no, sadly my work does not revolve around Lost). So thanks again to everyone for your thoughts, comments, and additions to my blog every week, especially the initial late night thoughts.
1. We know from past dialog that there is going to be an “incident” that changes things on the island (like fertility presumably). I originally thought that Jughead was going to start to leak, but I’m now wondering if the Losties have to do some crazy donkey wheel turning event to propel themselves back into the present time. My guess is that it’s before the big DI purge as by leaving that will give the Losties a whole new sense of guilt for not staying to help. I’m also guessing that Daniel is going to have to convince them that they can’t change the past and therefore the Losties cannot interfere with the purge. I can see this being especially hard for Sawyer as he is their head of security and from the looks of things he really cares about these people (like begging Juliet to help Amy deliver the baby).
2. I think that the O6 had to come back because each has a specific role that they will play and they must be there for the course of events to happen. Course correction. Do we know what that is yet? I don’t think so. In an interview awhile back Darlton said we wouldn’t find out until late Season 5 into Season 6 why they had to come back. In the meantime, I’ll sit back and enjoy watching Sawyer’s evolution (go home Kate! He’s doing great!)
3. It must have been very strange for whoever found the rope just sticking out of the ground. Could this have possibly been what lead someone to dig the well, find the cavern and eventually to digging the Orchid Station?
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4. The giant statue is holding a giant Ankh. Coincidence? It’s the same symbol that was on Paul’s necklace
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5. I’ll tell you why I think the turning of the donkey wheel caused the statue to crash. After the flash Miles says that “that one was more like an earthquake.” Unless anyone has a better explanation, I’m thinking that an earthquake would be a reasonable explanation for a statue going down.
6. For any doubters, the spelling for this episode is “LaFleur.” I’ve heard some chatter about this and maybe there are alternatives, but for us this is the correct spelling.
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7. I’m curious how they buried the bodies of the hostiles so quickly. They don’t have shovels. The logistics of it doesn’t make sense.
8. I think Mr Friendly may have been trying to call a truce with the Losties back in Season Two where they meet up with Locke and company out in the woods. Mr Friendly says that it’s their island and they allow them to stay there (I remember thinking at the time that they should just let them go home then…). Part of the problem with that truce is that the Losties refused to stay put and were always traipsing around the island.
9. OK so the “Internest” says that the mothers always give birth on the mainland. The possibilities are that there have been problems giving birth or that these peace loving hippies have enough common sense to get their people proper health care. Either way, it’s a good thing for Amy that Juliet was there.
10. I wonder if who the baby is even matters. But, if it does then I think it would have to be one of the male characters in his 30’s. That would be Jack, Sawyer, Ben or Desmond. It’s not Ben because we were witness to his birth. My guess would be either Jack or more likely Desmond since we know he is “special.” Plus, we really know nothing about Desmond’s parents.
11. I can also see why Richard would specifically recruit Juliet back to the island as she may be the last person who delivered a baby on the island.
12. Look how cute Sawyer looks when he’s all happy and stuff. Yes! I like this version!
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13. OK, so Sawyer does say that they were looking for the Black Rock, not on it. But has Horace really not heard of the boat? He seems to know later on when he brings back the dynamite.
14. How can the little girl Daniel sees be Charlotte? They are in 1974 and it was said earlier on that she was born in 1979. The only reason I can think of is that in her mother’s effort to cover their tracks and change her identity post-island was to also change her DOB so that no one would know that it was her.
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15. I’m thinking that Sawyer’s revelations to Richard about who he was and talking about Locke is what turns Richard around and has him send for Locke (remember the “science camp” that they tried to recruit “high school Locke” to go to?). If Locke “failed” the test when he was a young boy Richard may have been doubting that Locke was special. Then along comes Sawyer and restores his faith in Locke.
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16. Looks like things have also changed for Juliet. When we first met her she was burning muffins that she tried to make for the book club. Now she’s making Sawyer a big meal.
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17. Didn’t Patchy say that he was one of the last remaining DI? He even still wore the jumper. We haven’t seen him yet. Will be curious if they bring him into the story.
18. I wonder where Jin called Sawyer from? He only had a walkie and no cell phones.
19. I’m thinking that Sawyer will have to say that Jack and co. are his long lost ship mates. Hurely might be hard to explain as he kind of sticks out. And where the heck are Rose and Bernard… and Vincent!
March 9th, 2009 at 12:18 am
I have this feeling that if we ever do see the front side of that statue, that it’s going to have one of the faces of the Losties on it.
I’m kind of for Amy’s baby being Sawyer. Look at his reaction when he pulls the hood off of her – he recognizes her. Maybe she leaves the island and gets remarried. Sawyer’s reaction to seeing her is the same as when Dan is staring at Ellie. It could also be why Sawyer wanted so much to help Amy out when she was giving birth.
If you’ve noticed, most of the Losties seem to die once they’ve resolved their issues. Boone and Shannon died once they finally decided to free themselves from each other and live their own lives. Mr. Ecko died after changing his life from being a smuggler and all around bad guy and decided to devote his life to God. Charlie freed him self from his addiction and soon after he died.
I do think all of the Losties have gifts. Some we know of and others we can guess at. Here’s some examples. Jack fixed his ex-wife’s back. An impossible surgery. But Jack doesn’t believe in miracles. I think just for that instant when he told his ex that he’d fix her, he let go for a moment. We can guess that Walt is special by what the Others said of him, the things that happen when Walt is arround and his appearing places he’s not supposed to be. Locke of course has some connection with the island. The dead seem to come and talk with Hurley.
It makes sense that Horace would know about the Black Rock. Remember it was Hanso who was selling the log book that Widmore purchased. I first thought that the Hanso Foundation was having financial problems and that’s why they were selling the book. But I now wonder if maybe they wanted to get that book to Mr. Widmore, but they wanted to do so in a way that wasn’t obvious.
I do agree that Sawyer talking with Richard may be what spurred Richard into seeking out Locke again. Locke would be around 15 – 16 in 1974.
The only thing I can think about Rose, Bernard and Vincent is that they ended up in another time period, like Locke and Ben are in the present (at least I’m guessing it’s the present) while Jack and the rest ended up in 1977.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:04 am
Gary, wouldn’t that be creepy to see the face of one of the main characters on the statue? Gives me the heebie-jeebies just thinking about it. Plus they’d have to explain the four toes thing for sure.
To the people in 1974-77 living on the island, Sawyer and Juliette and Miles and Jin and Daniel must be a weird case, obviously. I mean, those people have to simply go on their word that that group came on a salvage vessel looking for the Black Rock. Of course that’s a lie. It reminds me of the Others, especially Ben, not really telling much truth about why they were there or where they came from.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Gitsie Girl,
I am so with you on the baby being Jack. That’s of course if the baby is relevant. But i said that i thought it is Jack on the other entry. I totally think it fita because it sure seems like Christian knows the island and that he may possibly have been there before. Maybe he somehow got the baby and took him off the island and raised him as his own. Maybe his death was his way of getting Jack back to the island. You know like Locke’s death was to get the O6 back. Maybe the island needed Jack back so Christian died.
March 9th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
I wonder how things are going to go between Jack and Sawyer. Sawyer has been the leader of the Losties for 3 years now. It’s kind of funny too, Sawyer, who used to be a con-man is now the head of security for the DI. But obviously, he’s good at it since they made him their chief security guy. They must be in that time for a specific reason, one of those may have been to ensure Amy and her baby survived. I’m pretty sure the Losties somehow will cause “the incident” as well – it’ll probably be Dan since we did see him in an earlier show sneaking around.
March 10th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
GaryG-
I’d my money down that Farrady does something in the Orchid and “messes things up”. He probably tries to turn the wheel or something.
April 20th, 2009 at 5:24 am
#4… looking at the statue you could make a case that it had long hair and a skirt. Perhaps a female? Perhaps a female Lostie? I like that concept GG.
Or… in another direction, what if the statue turns out to be our unaging Richard Alpert? Not sure about the toe thing. Anyone ever seen Richard’s feet?