5 X 10: He’s Our You
One of the things that I love about Lost is that you have to think. I appreciate that the “powers that be” give us credit for being intelligent and give us information without full explanation. For instance, at first blush I assumed that this week’s title came from Sawyer’s line to Sayid about Oldham. But after watching the episode back several times (for this blog, not because I’m obsessed…. ok, yes I am obsessed) I started to realize the duplicity of it’s meaning. Sayid is to the past what Ben is to the present in so far as he has to kill for what he believes is right for the greater good.
Initial thoughts and comments are here.
1. Isn’t it horrifying cute that Young Ben brings Sayid a chicken sandwich immediately after we see a scene of Sayid killing a chicken with his bare hands as a boy?
2. I still can’t get over the fact that Ben was living among the DI and Sawyer didn’t mention anything or make a big deal about it. When Jack showed up wouldn’t you totally be like, “You won’t believe who is here! But you can’t say anything when you see him.” I know that Sawyer says that he had no choice, but to not even mention it?
3. Young Ben is already quite the little sneak. He keeps coming to Sayid and just starts chatting about Richard. And, Ben knows that the cameras only have pictures, no sound. Ben also knows how to break out a prisoner. So, as much as Sayid may be an influence on the killer in Ben, it seems like Young Ben was already well on his way to being the conniving man he becomes. Plus, Ben was already working with the Hostiles when Sayid shows up so he’s not quite the innocent we may want to think he is as a young boy.
4. I was thinking about the O6 and how they had to live a lie back home. There was no freedom for them because they had to live with the weight of knowing they left all the others behind. But, things weren’t so easy for those back on the island as they also had to live a lie. They couldn’t tell the truth either and at least for Juliet, had settled into a life they thought was it for them. So I can understand why Sawyer wanted Sayid to lie and join the *Dharma Party* because their life really wasn’t all that bad for them there in 1977. It seems a heck of a lot better there than it was for Sawyer back home but they weren’t totally free from guilt either.
5. I really hate feeling this way, but I just cannot stand where they have taken Kate’s character. Right now I wish they could have left her behind. But, I am hoping that there is something positive to come for her and that she can stop crying and whining and go back to being strong and independent. I know that next week is Kate-centric so here’s the chance.
6. I’m sure it’s not there, but when Sayid first *senses* Ben behind him then he turns around, I swear you can hear the rattling noise that you hear sometimes when Smokey is sneaking around. Go back and listen! Watching this scene back also has new meaning now that I know Sayid shoots Young Ben.
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7. My first question is, how does Oldham get power out in the middle of the jungle? He’s playing a record in this tent. My second thought was that it looked a lot like the tent that Locke built when he was going on his magic carpet ride to find out what the island wanted from him. Lastly, Oldham is not nearly the bad a$$ that Sayid is unless there is more to come from this guy. A drug laced sugar cube, really? That’s the best he’s got?
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8. I’m still curious to know what the side affects of the sugar cube are going to be for Sayid. I know that Boone was chased by Smokey and saw Shannon die from his trip. Wonder what Sayid might see?
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9. Sayid is drinking McCutcheon Scotch (with his pinkie up I might add). This is the same scotch that Desmond bottled, that Widmore said Des wasn’t good enough to drink, and the scotch that Charlie used to get Des drunk.
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10. Why doe Amy want to kill Sayid so much? I understand that she’d be mad at the Hostiles, but to just kill him? Maybe there is more to her that we haven’t considered yet.
11. Why does Radzinski want to call Ann Arbor? The DeGroots are there but why would they have any say in this? In a psychology class I took, we learned about an experiment at Stanford University where they took groups of students and made some of them prisoners and some of them guards. You can read the whole thing here but long story short, the students became so enmeshed in their roles that they had to end the experiment early. Could that be what’s going on here? They all could have started from the same place, just split them into two groups and see what happens – one group civil, the other living in the wild.
12. Why do they have to kill Sayid? Why can’t they just wait for Richard and send him back? Maybe the DI isn’t as peaceful as they seem.
13. New job for Jack! Firefighter!
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14. Ben has to know when he sees Sayid on the flight that Sayid is on his way *back* to shoot him. Back to the island and back in time, I mean. Ben is so insistent on all of them going back that each one has a chain of events that they each must set in motion. I don’t think that they are going to save anyone. For instance, Sayid shoots Ben, he’s not saving his life, he’s just there to keep the record playing on the right song, so to speak. I’m very interested to see what the role of each of the others will be, including why Ben gets to or *has* to go back to the island.
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15. When Ben is saved, which he will be, no one saw him in the jungle so it will be easy for him to say Sayid kidnapped then shot him to escape. But, Ben has to hear the conversation between Sayid and Jin so he also knows that there is more going on here then just Sayid being a Hostile. Will the other Losties know that Sayid shot him for the greater good?
16. I hope next week that Sawyer is going to ask Kate if she did the favor him that he had asked her in the helicopter. Sounds like his daughter will be appearing next week so I’m guessing he will.
17. Who will end up saving Ben? My money is on Juliet. Although, Jack does end up feeling guilty and helping others and he took an oath as a doctor. But, I could see it being Juliet and that is why Ben is so enamored with her as an adult.
18. I also think that however the O6 end up returning to present time, that is going to be the big *incident* that has been referred to. My guess is that Sayid is going to end up running into Daniel. He will tell him the story. Dan is going to figure out how to get them back to the present but it will involve something drastic. But I do hope that we get to see how Radzinski ends up being quarantined down in the hatch and how the numbers came to be.
March 28th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
#18 I was thinking the same thing. Then again, the writers are pretty good at avoiding things we think will happen, and instead, having stuff planned that nobody really saw coming.
One more thing…
Sayid used Jin’s gun to kill little Ben. How convenient for Sayid that Jin came driving through and had a gun for him. Otherwise, what was Sayid’s plan? Was he just gonna snap little Ben’s neck? Seems pretty gruesome, even for Sayid…
March 28th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I was actually worried about the same thing (the strangling) with the lead in of Sayid killing the chicken with his bare hands – that he might strangle Young Ben when he first turned around after unlocking the cage.
March 28th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Does anyone know the history of the necklace? I know I sw someone put it in a drawer after taking it off?
March 28th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Gitsie,
I love that you know all of that info about the Scotch. awesome!
I also loved your comparison with the psych experiment! Great stuff!
Finally, I think that Ben said he “hated” his dad. As in past tense as in he was already dead when he let Sayid out. I know that wouldn’t make sense but I really think that is what he says…
March 28th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
when I saw the ‘leader’s of the DI’ deciding what to do with Sayid, the thought did cross my mind about what happens to people when they get a little bit of power, loved #11!! I remember that study too from college
and loved #18
loved reading the blog
March 28th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
#7 He has an old hand crank phonograph.
March 29th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
I think it’s interesting how when Locke was walking with Ben and Ben showed him the pit where the DI bodies were and Ben shot Locke without any remorse. He just did it. The same with Ben killing his father, so calculated and cold…Maybe Sayid shooting him as a kid made Ben a cold blooded killer, too….
March 29th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
has little ben been shot? did the fire really happen? we are told of side effects? i am thinking this is what sayid wanted to happen but will be woken up after being tortchured by oldham and being handed back to richard? he wants to kill little ben but it’s a dream? i think when he wakes up with richards lot and telling them what he knows makes ben a litttle more special to them? then what who know. well we all know what happens when the island is done with you..
i think the incident what we are expecting is what brings desmond to the island rather than the O6, and weired how everything seems to be jumping 3 years or 30 years, is three years apart important. i would have expected 4 to count for a leap year but hey..
love the blogs keep them coming i spend ages reading everyone. it’s great.
lets hope we can all get councilling for after lost season 6. what are we all going to do hen. don’t even go there!
March 29th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Hurley’s Honey, Im oretty sure that Ben says that he “really hates it here” not that he “really hated him” Ive seen a few people post that elsewhere and i went back and listened and watched it with the closed caption. Also remember that Ben kilss his dad when he was older, not when he was a young boy.
March 29th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Thanks drummike!
April 1st, 2009 at 5:38 pm
I’m still caught up with the simularity between Oldham and Jacob. Both seem to shun technology. Both living in exclusion from their group. I’m waiting for Oldham to meet one of the other O6 and say something like, “Hi, I’m Oldham… Jacob Oldham.”
April 20th, 2009 at 5:42 am
#5 – i so totally agree with you about kate’s character. i used to love the epi’s where we learned more about her. any more i dread her onscreen time. i feel about her now like i did about juliette when she first came on. and i feel about juliette now (like her) like i used to about kate. twisted. they’ve time traveled my character preferences, darn them.