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		<title>By: BadGirl74</title>
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		<dc:creator>BadGirl74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She complains the house is too cold in August. ,</description>
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		<title>By: GaryG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaryG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opps, sorry, not when they found Desmond pushing the button, but where...lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opps, sorry, not when they found Desmond pushing the button, but where&#8230;lol.</p>
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		<title>By: GaryG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaryG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey GG, don&#039;t forget, if Dan&#039;s plan does manage to change things so that 815 never crashes on the island, that&#039;ll mean they don&#039;t met Desmond on the island and help him get off and back to Penny.  From what they have been saying, they&#039;ll be blowing up the Swan Station&#039;s site when they found Desmond pushing the button - so will it be there or not when Desmond washes up on the island?  But also, it&#039;s obvious that Chang/Pierre or whatever other name he goes buy did send most of the women and children off the island since we know that&#039;s what happened to Miles.  So will things actually be changed, or is this and was this always the &quot;incident?&quot;  Remember Sayid&#039;s comment, &quot;The last time I heard of so much cement poured onto something like this was Chernobyl.&quot;  That remark kind of set the stage for a nuke and radiation.  Anyhow, just a few thoughts.  I can&#039;t wait till tonight.  This entire season has been the best yet and I just know tonight&#039;s show is going to blow the rest away.  If Lost doesn&#039;t receive an award this year, something is wrong!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey GG, don&#8217;t forget, if Dan&#8217;s plan does manage to change things so that 815 never crashes on the island, that&#8217;ll mean they don&#8217;t met Desmond on the island and help him get off and back to Penny.  From what they have been saying, they&#8217;ll be blowing up the Swan Station&#8217;s site when they found Desmond pushing the button &#8211; so will it be there or not when Desmond washes up on the island?  But also, it&#8217;s obvious that Chang/Pierre or whatever other name he goes buy did send most of the women and children off the island since we know that&#8217;s what happened to Miles.  So will things actually be changed, or is this and was this always the &#8220;incident?&#8221;  Remember Sayid&#8217;s comment, &#8220;The last time I heard of so much cement poured onto something like this was Chernobyl.&#8221;  That remark kind of set the stage for a nuke and radiation.  Anyhow, just a few thoughts.  I can&#8217;t wait till tonight.  This entire season has been the best yet and I just know tonight&#8217;s show is going to blow the rest away.  If Lost doesn&#8217;t receive an award this year, something is wrong!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Gitsie Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gitsie Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 12:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe since Dan and Penny are related then she has something *special* about her as well?  I like the idea of Des having to go back to the island in some type of effort to save Penny.  Would be a very interesting twist.

Can&#039;t wait for tonight.  TWO HOURS! YEAH!

I feel for those of you outside the US that don&#039;t get to watch it live.  I wish there was a way I could post the epi for you...  Are they even airing Season 5 yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe since Dan and Penny are related then she has something *special* about her as well?  I like the idea of Des having to go back to the island in some type of effort to save Penny.  Would be a very interesting twist.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait for tonight.  TWO HOURS! YEAH!</p>
<p>I feel for those of you outside the US that don&#8217;t get to watch it live.  I wish there was a way I could post the epi for you&#8230;  Are they even airing Season 5 yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 21:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love tthe site. shame we have to waitt longer to watch it here in he uk. thanks for the internet i usually get to watch the show on thursdays.
just a few bits on my mind.
dan saved desmonds life from jumping with constants. which was penny.
daniel&#039;s constant is desmond as it is listed in his journal. so. bare with me here. if elloise is penny&#039;s mum and elloise dies, then penny is not born, might we see penny do the jumping thing like desmond did which is what dakes desmond back to the island to save penny, her mum and in some way desmond? that a little hard to follow, just hope you know how i mean...
also those who went back to 1977, are they really asleep and dreaming it? and just need their constants to bring them back before they die? be it by bomb?
CGI of sub was very poor. if we can make dinosaurs look life like when no-one has even met one, why cant they get water right?
i think jacob is the egyptian mummy of the statue, and the rules arer just documented in the writing symbols on the walls. locke says he&#039;s gonna kill him but i think he took everyone in order to show them that he does&#039;nt exists
if in each season they had something tot achieve s4 get off island s5 get back to island what can possibly follow for s6 for them to achieve?
if i could take this last line to thank GGirl for all your work?  i dont know what you will find to do this time next year but i&#039;m looking forward to it.
love from the UK
Phil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love tthe site. shame we have to waitt longer to watch it here in he uk. thanks for the internet i usually get to watch the show on thursdays.<br />
just a few bits on my mind.<br />
dan saved desmonds life from jumping with constants. which was penny.<br />
daniel&#8217;s constant is desmond as it is listed in his journal. so. bare with me here. if elloise is penny&#8217;s mum and elloise dies, then penny is not born, might we see penny do the jumping thing like desmond did which is what dakes desmond back to the island to save penny, her mum and in some way desmond? that a little hard to follow, just hope you know how i mean&#8230;<br />
also those who went back to 1977, are they really asleep and dreaming it? and just need their constants to bring them back before they die? be it by bomb?<br />
CGI of sub was very poor. if we can make dinosaurs look life like when no-one has even met one, why cant they get water right?<br />
i think jacob is the egyptian mummy of the statue, and the rules arer just documented in the writing symbols on the walls. locke says he&#8217;s gonna kill him but i think he took everyone in order to show them that he does&#8217;nt exists<br />
if in each season they had something tot achieve s4 get off island s5 get back to island what can possibly follow for s6 for them to achieve?<br />
if i could take this last line to thank GGirl for all your work?  i dont know what you will find to do this time next year but i&#8217;m looking forward to it.<br />
love from the UK<br />
Phil.</p>
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		<title>By: GaryG</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 21:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugo Hurley:  You made me think about something.  Who are Desmond&#039;s parents?  Widmore was so dead against Desmond being with Penny when they first met.  That whole telling Desmond about that scotch, setting out the two glasses and then pouring only one for himself and telling Desmond he was unworthy to drink a glass of it, I mean, that was so personal.  The one person Widmore seems to hate above everyone is Ben, but Ben is too young to be Desmond&#039;s father.  Then again with all the time travel stuff, who knows.  Then also, Ben could have been a teen father and we still don&#039;t know what happened with Annie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugo Hurley:  You made me think about something.  Who are Desmond&#8217;s parents?  Widmore was so dead against Desmond being with Penny when they first met.  That whole telling Desmond about that scotch, setting out the two glasses and then pouring only one for himself and telling Desmond he was unworthy to drink a glass of it, I mean, that was so personal.  The one person Widmore seems to hate above everyone is Ben, but Ben is too young to be Desmond&#8217;s father.  Then again with all the time travel stuff, who knows.  Then also, Ben could have been a teen father and we still don&#8217;t know what happened with Annie.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Hurley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugo Hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 20:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so widmore is dan&#039;s father and eloise is dan&#039;s mother, right?  
widmore is penny&#039;s father too.  
whats the age difference between dan and penny? 
cant be more than a few years, right?

well, assuming eloise is pregnant in 1977 and widmore has been on the island for a little while, then where is penny ??? who is her mom ???

mark my words, desmond and penny will be HUGE factors from here on out ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so widmore is dan&#8217;s father and eloise is dan&#8217;s mother, right?<br />
widmore is penny&#8217;s father too.<br />
whats the age difference between dan and penny?<br />
cant be more than a few years, right?</p>
<p>well, assuming eloise is pregnant in 1977 and widmore has been on the island for a little while, then where is penny ??? who is her mom ???</p>
<p>mark my words, desmond and penny will be HUGE factors from here on out &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GaryG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaryG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 08:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also thinking that Ben deciding not to shoot Penny when he saw little Charlie may have contributed to the island&#039;s judgement of him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also thinking that Ben deciding not to shoot Penny when he saw little Charlie may have contributed to the island&#8217;s judgement of him.</p>
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		<title>By: GaryG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaryG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 08:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing though that we have to think about.  Christian was dead before 815 crashed on the island and he&#039;s running around alive once again.  So why not Locke as well?  Locke appears to have come back with many of his questions answered.  He knows more than he did before he left the island.  When Ben talks about trying to kill Locke, don&#039;t forget about him shooting Locke and leaving him for dead in the pit with all the DI bodies.  Richard probably knows about that, but may not about Ben strangling Locke back in the real world and Ben may be referring to that time.  Like I mentioned before, Ben may not be the same Ben that Richard knows from before.  Ben came back to be judged by the island.  He had his run in with smokey and his dead daughter and was allowed to live after being told to follow Locke.  Ben is on borrowed time now and he knows it.  Even before, he could have allowed Ceasar to kill Locke, but instead, he protected Locke and shot Ceasar.  If there is a Jacob and who Jacob is, I can only guess it&#039;s going to come as a big surprise to all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing though that we have to think about.  Christian was dead before 815 crashed on the island and he&#8217;s running around alive once again.  So why not Locke as well?  Locke appears to have come back with many of his questions answered.  He knows more than he did before he left the island.  When Ben talks about trying to kill Locke, don&#8217;t forget about him shooting Locke and leaving him for dead in the pit with all the DI bodies.  Richard probably knows about that, but may not about Ben strangling Locke back in the real world and Ben may be referring to that time.  Like I mentioned before, Ben may not be the same Ben that Richard knows from before.  Ben came back to be judged by the island.  He had his run in with smokey and his dead daughter and was allowed to live after being told to follow Locke.  Ben is on borrowed time now and he knows it.  Even before, he could have allowed Ceasar to kill Locke, but instead, he protected Locke and shot Ceasar.  If there is a Jacob and who Jacob is, I can only guess it&#8217;s going to come as a big surprise to all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Dharma Adept</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dharma Adept</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 03:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice review, gitsie. that CGI was pretty obvious. i somehow doubt that Richard is Jacob. i think Jacob is someone we haven&#039;t seen yet. &#039;crazy paralyzing spiders?&#039; too messy. besides, we would have seen one of them crawl out of the coffin. but i think the episode makes sense if we accept your premise that dan was wrong for those reasons. the future can always be changed because it hasnt happened yet. it&#039;s the past which cannot be changed, if you think about it. if someone goes to the future, that doesnt change the past. if someone goes to the past that doesnt change the past--only that which hasnt happened yet is affected--it only changes the present, which becomes the past, which alters the possible course of the future. so WHH is correct. i think there are things which always happend, but that doesnt mean they couldnt have not happened had circumstances been different. a corollary to WHH is What Hasnt Happened, Hasnt Happened (Yet), or WHHHH(Y).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice review, gitsie. that CGI was pretty obvious. i somehow doubt that Richard is Jacob. i think Jacob is someone we haven&#8217;t seen yet. &#8216;crazy paralyzing spiders?&#8217; too messy. besides, we would have seen one of them crawl out of the coffin. but i think the episode makes sense if we accept your premise that dan was wrong for those reasons. the future can always be changed because it hasnt happened yet. it&#8217;s the past which cannot be changed, if you think about it. if someone goes to the future, that doesnt change the past. if someone goes to the past that doesnt change the past&#8211;only that which hasnt happened yet is affected&#8211;it only changes the present, which becomes the past, which alters the possible course of the future. so WHH is correct. i think there are things which always happend, but that doesnt mean they couldnt have not happened had circumstances been different. a corollary to WHH is What Hasnt Happened, Hasnt Happened (Yet), or WHHHH(Y).</p>
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