Heroes in Lost’s World?
Silliness or serious?
2. DOES NBC’S HEROES TAKE PLACE IN THE SAME WORLD AS ABC’S LOST?
(Too-Good-to-Be-True Conspiracy Theory of the Week!)
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ANALYSIS Roughly 13 million-plus Americans have fallen hard for Heroes, television’s newest cult-pop sensation, and I am proud to say that I am one of them. My friends and family have applauded the expansion of my geek-TV interests; they were worried that Lost had begun to take over my life. Of course, Heroes isn’t much of a leap from Lost, considering how much they overlap: Both shows have a diverse, multicultural, interconnected cast; fixations with fate, coincidence and destiny; mysterious comic books; an inexplicable recurring motif (in Lost, it’s the Numbers; in Heroes, it’s a helix-shaped pattern); a mythology grounded in weird science and possibly sinister scientific experimentation; and even a potentially superpowered kid with estranged parents. Hmmmm…
In fact, after watching the most recent chapter in the unfolding Heroes saga, my conspiracy-theory senses began to tingle and twitch in that crazy Brad Pitt-in-12 Monkeys kinda way that makes my wife very, very nervous. Because it suddenly struck me that Heroes’ fantastical premise — that human beings are breaking out with superpowers as an evolutionary response to environmental changes (overpopulation, global warming, war) threatening the survival of the species — is conspicuously similar to the sci-fi conceit of Lost’s Hanso Foundation/Dharma Initiative mythology. And by ”conspicuously similar,” I am indeed suggesting that both shows occupy the same creative universe.
THEORY The mysterious island on Lost was a mad-scientist laboratory focused on accelerating human evolution that created the superpowered heroes on Heroes.
According to the Lost revelations disclosed this past summer through The Lost Experience (and if you haven’t seen the mother of all Lost orientation films, check it out here), the purpose of the Dharma Initiative was to develop radical scientific solutions that could save the world from an impending apocalypse, as predicted by a mathematical formula called the Valenzetti Equation. The Numbers belong to that equation; it seems that each digit in the sequence — 4 8 15 16 23 42 — is a value in the equation that corresponds to a key variable in Valenzetti’s recipe for disaster. Those variables include overpopulation, global warming, and war — the same environmental factors that are (allegedly) triggering Mother Nature to sire a world full of X-Men on Heroes.
Apparently, Dharma financier Alvar Hanso believed that if just one of the values in the Equation could be changed, Armageddon could be averted, or at least delayed. Dharma’s activities on the island somehow had the ability to have an impact on the rest of the world, perhaps via the ”unique” electromagnetic energy that radiates from the same section of the island where Station Three: The Swan was located. Remember the radio tower that was broadcasting the Numbers? It was basically a weather report, updating the scientists on the condition of the world; when and if they heard that the core values of the Equation had been changed, they would know that their work had succeeded. Alas, according to The Lost Experience, the Dharma Initiative failed to accomplish its mission.
But what if the Dharma scientists did have an impact on the world, one that defied calculation and measurement at the time? Remember, Dharma was active on the island during the ’70s — about the time that all the superpowered characters on Heroes were conceived and born. What if Dharma spiked the world’s gene pool with some superpowered hooch? According to The Lost Experience, Hanso is affiliated with a prominent confectionary marketer called the Apollo Candy Company; maybe one of those Apollo candy bars gave Nathan Petrelli on Heroes a real high-flying kick, if you know what I mean.
Okay, maybe I’m the one who’s high. But I think there’s enough reason to be suspicious, especially since the two shows in question share one unquestionable link: the creator of Heroes, Tim Kring, and the co-creator of Lost, Damon Lindelof, used to work together on Crossing Jordan and remain good friends. So: Are the brilliant buddies quietly engaged in some kind of clandestine creative collaboration?
RESPONSE FROM HEROES CREATOR TIM KRING Hey! Look at this! Turns out we’re onto something, at least in a wishful-thinking sort of way. Asked if Heroes and Lost are in a secret alliance, Kring says, ”Well… Damon and I did talk about a lot of stuff. And unfortunately, we’re on different networks, because otherwise, a lot of those things would have been really, really fun to have done.” By ‘’stuff,” do you mean you guys actually discussed the possibility of mythologically linked shows? ”Oh, yeah,” says Kring. ”We’ve talked a lot [in general] about how two shows could dovetail. But again, we are limited by the fact that we are on competing networks.” But couldn’t you guys conceivably do this idea without ever technically acknowledging it in any formal way? ”That’s true. That’s true,” says Kring with a laugh.
TRANSLATION Keep dreamin’, Doc J. (BTW: Thanks to Mr. Kring for kindly indulging my obsessions.)
ESTIMATED CHANCE OF A LOST/HEROES CONNECTION Oh, like they would ever admit it if this were true!
Source: http://www.ew.com/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,1547154_3_0_,00.html















October 21st, 2006 at 7:30 am
[...] THEORY The mysterious island on Lost was a mad-scientist laboratory focused on accelerating human evolution that created the superpowered heroes on Heroes. (read more here…) [...]
June 9th, 2007 at 5:23 pm
Interesting…
July 23rd, 2007 at 7:06 am
More LOST-HEROES connections……
Shishir Kurup has appeared in both shows, playing the same role – the scientist who thinks the ideas are ridiculous. In Heroes he says this about Mohinder and his father’s theories. In Lost he plays a physicist who says this to apparently time-travelling Desmond.
But even more stunning is the synchronicity connection. There may be a lot more to discover yet, but some episodes of both shows synchronise with Radiohead, Pink Floyd and Bob Dylan albums….
Heroes pilot episode synchronises with Kid A, Hail To The Thief and OK Computer. OK Computer has 3 different starting points, which are defined by the start of the episode and the two alternative ending points of Kid A. (The episode restarts when it ends – that is why it says ‘TO BE CONTINUED’.) Hail To The Thief starts at Kid A ending point 2, but the episode also starts again at the song ‘Where I end and you begin’.
Here are the Lost episode synchronicities I have found so far – there are many clues to these in the episodes to help you find them. Usually either the episode or the album restarts if they don’t end together or at the LOST title point…
1.01 Dark Side Of The Moon
1.02 Dark Side Of The Moon
3.01 OK Computer (episode plays twice)
3.16 Dark Side Of The Moon
3.16 Kid A
3.16 Wish You Were Here
3.16 Highway 61 Revisited (omit song ‘Highway 61 revisited’)
3.20 Dark Side Of The Moon
3.20 The Final Cut
3.20 OK Computer (episode plays twice)
3.20 Hail To The Thief (start at song ‘Where I end and you begin’)
3.20 Kid A
3.21 Dark Side Of The Moon
3.21 Blonde On Blonde (track order 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 9, 11, 13, 14, 4, 10, 12)
Charlie’s ‘DS’ ring = Dark Side Of The Moon
Baby Aaron = Kid A
July 23rd, 2007 at 7:13 am
Just wanted to add the quotes that define the episodes….
LOST
(‘Eclipse’ – Dark Side Of The Moon)
“Everything under the sun is in tune,
but the sun is eclipsed by the moon.”
HEROES
(‘Airbag’ – OK Computer)
“In an interstellar burst,
I’m back to save the universe.”
August 6th, 2007 at 7:43 pm
Keith, thanks for the very detailed info. Very interesting! GG
September 30th, 2007 at 11:37 am
On lost the others say that some of the surviours of ocianic flight 815 are on the list e.g cindy ,the kids ,claire and others are not e.g kate .could this be the list on heroes the everyone is on.
October 4th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
That is a very unique thought. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out the writers are in *kahoots.*
November 3rd, 2007 at 6:42 pm
As soon as I saw Heroes I thought of Walt and his comic book. Also I read on a Lost sight before about the writer paying homage to another old film with the Snow Globe, again in Heroes too. I think this is more than coincidence. Everytime the button in Lost is pressed Bono and other celebrities click their fingers and another kid in Africa dies, or is it someone in Heroes discovers a power like (being able to click their fingers …….. you get it). Also In Heroes its like a generation thing all trying to save the world. Which one in the photo will be Sylar’s father? Darth Vader???
March 21st, 2009 at 1:47 am
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May 1st, 2009 at 7:46 am
HAHA! You’re right in the tag-line… this theory would just be too beautifully synced to be true. ;P Plus, on a more practical note, they’re on different networks — no way NBC and ABC are going to get together to play a huge practical joke on the world. Which is totally a pity, because that would be AMAZING.
Nice parallels though, and I love the idea!