Initial Thoughts: Namaste
I liked tonight’s episode but to me it felt like a device to just get us from point A to point B. Not a lot really happened, but it got us on track for big things to come. No big surprise that Ben came to Sayid (well, to Sayid it was a surprise) but I’m sure there are really big things to come in that story line.
1. Why didn’t Sun flash with the other Losties? I suspect Ben had something to do with that but not sure how he did it yet.
2. Having Sun in the future and Jin in the past is the perfect way to set them up to do whatever it takes to reunite. We’ve seen the kinds of things that Jin did when he worked for Sun’s father so it doesn’t seem above him to do bad things when needed. I’m assuming that Ben and Co. set it up that way because they will need Sun and Jin’s help to reunite all of the Losties. Like players in a chess game.
3. We can see Sawyer start losing control when Jin takes off to look for Sun and the plane crash. He seems to have done a good job regaining control of his life as part of the DI, now these 3 show up and start shaking the foundation.
4. Back a few seasons ago I thought it was going to be Locke’s group versus Jack’s group. Now I’m wondering if it’s going to end up being Sawyer versus Jack. Sawyer considers DI his people now and I don’t think he’ll leave easily knowing about the purge.
5. Interesting to see Radzinksy building the hatch. Will need to get a screen cap of that. I’m also very curious how he ends up *trapped* in the hatch. I’m guessing his fate along with the “quarantine” signs on the hatch doors go along with the *incident* which probably involves the Losties and how they return to current time.
6. Ben had no intention of going back to the big island. He totally set up Sun.
7. Ha! Jack was tapping on his watch. They said way back in Season One that watches didn’t work on the island so I wondered why everyone was wearing them.
8. Jack was looking pretty fine in that tight blue shirt.
9. And why was Frank still wearing his tie? He’s just been through a horrific plane crash and he still wears a tie? What’s up with these people?
10. Speaking of ties…. will be very interested to see where Daniel has taken off to. I’m sure they will need him in order to reunite with the present Losties.
11. Jack is a janitor. Cute that Sawyer set that job up for him.
12. Locke hasn’t shown up yet on the beach. It must take some time to wake up the dead.
13. If Sun and Frank are in current time then why is Otherville in such bad shape? When they left they had still been living there and everything was in good order. However, I remember the first time we saw Otherville and it appeared to be in the the middle of a large crater surrounded by jungle. *This* Otherville may be something like Jacob’s cabin that appears and disappears.
14. Sounded like Old Smokey in the trees before Sun and Frank hit the barracks, too.
15. Why did Radzinsky care so much that a hostile saw the plans for the hatch and where they were building it?
16. The Whispers are back! And was that not the creepiest image of Christian when he first appeared in the door?
17. Wow, Sawyer really gives it to Jack straight about how Jack just reacted rather than thinking. It seemed pretty mean but I can’t say that Sawyer was wrong. Now, we just have to hope that Jack doesn’t go and mess up whatever Sawyer has planned.
18. A friend of mine asked a good question – how is it that a newbie on the island gets to bring a prisoner a sandwich? Ben could not have been there before because Sawyer would have known. And I want to know how Juliet didn’t notice Ben’s name on the list from the sub.
19. Vincent, where is he?? And Rose and Bernard- do we assume they are dead?
March 18th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
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I found this site the other day and I just about read each of the posts. this is good stuff.
anyway i was pretty disappointed to see young ben in this past episode. He is clearly older than when we first met him so I suspect he was on the island before the sub arrived with the new recruits. in an earlier episode he said he was thirty three and had lived on the island all his life. we know that half of that was a lie but if his age is right he should have been born in 71 and than only 6 in 77.
March 18th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Welcome! Thanks for the comment. I agree, he does appear older. Charlotte wasn’t supposed to be born yet either yet I we saw her as a child in the last episode. I don’t know yet if we are just off by a few years or they are just hoping we won’t notice the age discrepancies.
March 19th, 2009 at 12:06 am
Best moment of the show . . . Radzinsky watching the MUPPET SHOW in the Pearl . . . at least it was on in the top left television. Hilarious.
March 19th, 2009 at 12:22 am
Correction: He was in The Flame.
. . . but it WAS The Muppet Show.
Mere shout out to a writer’s fave? . . . or symbolic of the fact that someone(s) on the show is being manipulated by a “puppeteer”???
. . . or could it be that this whole operation is a ruse?
“It’s time to put on make-up. It’s time to dress up right . . .”
March 19th, 2009 at 12:27 am
ooo, great catch!
March 19th, 2009 at 1:36 am
Could the reason why Sun, Frank, and Ben didn’t go back to 1977 be because no one expected them to come back. Remember Jin told Locke to tell Sun that he was alive and not to bring her back. Plus Frank was not a member of the O6.
It was interesting that Jacks name was called before Juliette came in with the updated list of recruits.
Young Ben had to already be on the island, due to we didn’t see him in with the new recruits.
And where in all of this is Claire? She went with Christian before the time jumps and no one has seen her since. Did she jump with the island like everyone else? As for Aaron I think Kate took him and gave him to Claire’s mother, since she was in LA to get the check from Oceanic.
March 19th, 2009 at 1:38 am
Correction: Jin told Locke that he didn’t want Sun coming back to the island to tell her that he was dead.
March 19th, 2009 at 7:47 am
I think the reason Sun did not wind up in 1977 has something to do with her being pregnant when she left the island, and not bringing her child with her on flight 316.
March 19th, 2009 at 9:03 am
I loved the reaction when Sawyer told them they were in 1977. If you noticed, Jack the unbeliever didn’t put up an argument and just accepted it. I agree with you GG, Sawyer was pretty harsh with Jack when he put him in his place, but Sawyer was correct, Jack wasn’t a big thinker when he made decisions – he just reacted. The thing that always got me from Season One is that they never sent anyone out to walk around the island and check things out. Jack Workman – I wonder if Jack is going to be working for Roger (Ben’s father).
Duchess: I like that idea that maybe Sun and crew didn’t end up in 1977 is because Sawyer and crew didn’t expect them to be on the plane. It would mean that they have some affect on things. I wonder is Christain is going to have Sun turn the wheel to move her and Frank in time. If She does, will they go to 1977 or will that make them go to another time period and move Sawyer and team in time as well?
Here’s something to think about. It seems like the island, or the people on the island have Egyptian origins. But if you remember, when Sawyer and them ran into them in 1954, they spoke Latin which was Roman and not Egyptian. But there were times when Egypt was under Roman rule especially in the later parts of Egypts history back when Ceaser was chasing after Ceopatra. (Hmmm, doesn’t a new charater share that name even?) So the original Others may have come to the island when Rome was in control of Egypt.
I think Ben wasn’t a new recruit, I’m guessing we have to assume he’s been on the island a few years. They guy gaurding Sayid acted like he knew Ben. Which means Ben had to be on the island earlier than we expected.
So, Ethan is Amy’s son. No one here even mentioned that. If you remember I’ve been mentioning how Ben and later Juliet suggested that not all the DI were killed off in the Purge. Did they ever mention that Horace’s last name was Rom? If they did, I never caught it. You’d have to remember way back to when Hurley was doing the census that Ethan told Hurley his last name was Rom. But anyhow, like I mentioned, Ben may have recruited other DI people to help him in the Purge and that those other people were most likely kids he grew up with on the island. So seeing Ethan being born on the island seems to back that up. But I can’t believe Juliet would be too surprised, she must have known Horace’s and Ethan’s last names and you think she would have put that together some time ago – especially on this island.
SKID: That Muppet Show catch and your theory is awesome. Good one. I like it.
Man, Radzinsky has been on the island a long time. It appears he’s the one who designed the Swan station, so no wonder he knew how to fake a lockdown.
GG: I think the Dock is a little ways away from the Barracks. But boy, that place was a wreck. The lamp posts are all down and the building looked unused for years. Even when Cesar was rifling through the Hydra station offices, I thought that it had a look of being abandoned for a while. We’re been assuming that the plane is still in current time, but either the Others haven’t returned to any of these stations since Locke turned the wheel or maybe the plane didn’t end up in 2008, maybe they’re 30 years in the future while Sawyer and them are 30 years in the past – putting 60 years between both teams.
Christain sure is acting creepy. I’ve always wondered about the way he’s been acting and I finally realized what he reminds me of. He’s like one of those super friendly fanatical church goers. Have you ever been to a church where everyone there acts just too too friendly to be believed? Anyhow, that’s what he reminds me of.
On Locke not being there. If you remember, Christian seemed to be a bit disoriented when he frist came back. He was just kind of wandering around. Probably in disbelief that he was alive, who knows. And like Christian, the first time people see him he’s standing in the water. Could that be symbolic like Christ walking on water and his ressurection and such? I mean even the name Christain itself which if I remember means “follower of Christ.”
I am still wondering about Aaron. I agree that Kate probably gave him to Claire’s mother. If she decided to return back to Australia, it’s very likely she would have taken a flight that had a stop over in Guam since Guam is about halfway between the USA and Australia. So Aaron may have been on Flight 316 and they’re waiting to pop that on us. I’m kind of counting on it. It seems like fate that they were all meant to return to the island and it’s hard to cheat fate. Desmond didn’t get to the island by a plane, he got there on his boat… and Desmond does have a boat, so I’m sure that’s how he’ll get back. I’m hoping he’s not coming back because Ben killed Penny though. Like I said before when Ben called Jack up from that dock, he looked pretty beaten up so I don’t think his task went so well.
Anyhow, I can’t wait to see where the show goes from here. I hope we get to see that statue and learn it’s origin and why it has 4 toes. And… where are Rose, Bernard, Claire and Vincent? But I do remember them saying we wouldn’t see Claire this season.
March 19th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Wow, I didn’t realize how much I wrote…lol.
March 19th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Opps, Cleopatra, not Ceopatra…lol.
March 19th, 2009 at 9:12 am
By the way, I lived on Guam for about a year and a half. It’s small, You can drive around the island in about an hour. But it has some of the very best scuba diving in the entire world. If you like to scuba, you should definitely take a trip to Guam. Some of the reefs are less than 30 feet under water meaning you can spend hours down there checking things out.
March 19th, 2009 at 10:21 am
I agree with a previous comment that the plane crashed on the present day island which would be 2007, not 2008. If you recall the Losties initially crashed in September, 2004 and the Oceanic 6 left the island sometime in late December, 2004. They were off the island for three years before leaving on the plane to return to the island, which would make it sometime in 2007. I believe that is part of the reason why Othersville is in so poor shape, that and we could be looking at an alternate reality due to the Losties changing the history of the island by the decisions they made back in 1977. Anyway, it’s just a theory.
March 19th, 2009 at 10:22 am
I like this theory of Sun nad Co. being 30 yrs in future instead of past. I like that maybe it’s because they weren’t expected or aren’t supposed to be there. But why Locke? Weren’t “they” expected him to come back with Jack and Co.?
March 19th, 2009 at 10:24 am
I agree that the show was getting us to where we need to be last night.
You guys have wrote some good theories on here, I love reading them.
Sun not going back with Jack, Kate and Hurley, I think it has something to do with her child although there has not been any mention of her. But why would she be seperated? I think maybe it does have something to do with getting them all back into the same time period, maybe the island didn’t want her back, just like Ben. Maybe John and Ben didn’t go back because they weren’t meant to be leaders in the past, they only have something to do with the future…
Where is Daniel, maybe he is with the hostiles/others? or he went crazy and is wondering the island alone
Sawyer as a leader, I think he really likes the life he has with DI, it is stable unlike his past. I don’t think he likes Jack, Kate and Hurley showing up b/c they may screw up what he has going on, he knows how opioniated they are
It was sad how harsh he was on Jack, Jack seemed so happy to be reunited, like he was finally doing what he was supposed to do
I think there is gonna be some serious controversy with Sayid
And Ethan as Amy’s baby…so he was born and raised on the island, I think that Ben took some of his life story for himself, and it does make since that some of the kids he grew up with came with him after the purge
And I’m thinking the same thing…where the heck is Rose, Bernard, and Vincent! they must be in another time period or dead and they can’t be dead!
Love the blog as usual, great job!
March 19th, 2009 at 10:26 am
ToddH-that’s a good thought. But when the O6 left there were people living there. Right?
On a side note. I feel like we’ve seen Phil (security guy, questioned Kate) somewhere before? Have we or not?
March 19th, 2009 at 10:34 am
OMG i just remembered that we saw Sun in her time and then it said 30 years earlier so Sun is in 2007. So as i was saying before i thought that there were people living in the DI houses when the O6 left so something must have happened or they really changed something in 1977 for it to that run down looking after only 3 years aftert he O6 left.
March 19th, 2009 at 11:08 am
ashley: I think Locke stayed with the plane because he was dead when it got to the island. Remember when Charlotte died and they shifted, her body remained in that time and they found Dan sitting on the ground alone.
I do feel sorry for Sawyer. He seems to have finally gotten his life back together and now the O6 show up to throw a wrench in it.
I think Dan is still with the DI guys, but he seems to have gone a bit nuts after Charlotte died and her body stayed behind. I think he’s still dealing with that. Dan has to be the cause of the Incident though. We saw him sneaking around in the Orchid in an earlier show. I bet he’s going to try to do something that’ll bring back Charlotte and not to return them to their own time, though that may be a part of it. In every book, movie or whatever, anytime there’s time travel involved the biggest concern is always changing things and causing a paradox. Like the thing with going back and killing your father before you’re born. If you killed your father, how could you be born to go back and kill him. That kind of thing. But I think Dan’s biggest motivation will deal with Charlotte. Another thing that supports that Dan is a bit loopy is Charlotte’s recollection of him as “the crazy man” who frightened her when she was a kid. We’re concerned that Charlotte seemed to be older (even born) in 1977, but who’s to say that when she left the island that she didn’t end up in a future time period in the real world.
The key to the island seems to be Richard. He’s there in every time period we’ve seen and he never seems to age. Like Juliet said, “Richard has ALWAYS been here.” But he’s not the leader of the Others, he seems to be the one who conditions and prepares the leader to lead. Then he follows that person’s orders. But he also seems to have side plans, like when he side stepped Ben to give Locke the information on Sawyer that got Sawyer to kill Locke’s father. Of course, what we didn’t know then was that Richard had met Locke in the past.
ashley: Ya, I thought Phil was a bit suspisious there when he talked with Kate. Also when Jack bumped into him looking for Sawyer. I think we’ll be seeing more of Phil. But I’m not sure if we’ve seen him before. I try to watch all the previous seasons just before the new season starts every year, just to remember things and make it easier to piece things together when the new season starts. But I don’t remember Phil, but that doesn’t mean we haven’t seen him before.
Did you see the preview for next week where Sayid is pointing a gun at someone and says, “Now I know why I’m here.” Then shoots. I wonder who he’s shooting? Ben as a kid? That’d be aweful. I saw a show once, I think it may have been the newer Twilight Zone or what’s the other one that does similar stories? But they send someone back in time to kill Hitler while he’s still a baby. The person couldn’t do it. Instead they switch Adolf with another baby – a baby from a Jewish family and the real Adolf is raised by the Jewish family. But it didn’t change anything, because the changling baby that grows up in Hilter’s place still grows up to be the same Adolf Hitler that the real Adolf would have been.
March 19th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
17. Is it just me, or did Jack seem releived when Sawyer asserted his authority? Jack was never terribly comfortable being the leader, I always felt as if he kind of assumed the role because he didn’t trust Locke or Sawyer. Jack may be more willing to trust Sawyer now though, so maybe he’ll go along.
19. Near the beginning, Jack asks Sawyer “Who’s with you?” (or “Who else is left?”, something to that efect) They cut to Sawyer with a concerned look on his face, then immediately cut away before we learn what Sawyer’s response was. I’m thinking now that the producers are leaving this intentionally vague until later in the season. Probably, it was one of the following 4 scenarios:
A. The DI later found Rose, Bernard, and the rest of the Losties, Sawyer convinced the DI that they were also part of his crew, and they are now with the DI as well.
B. Rose, Bernard, and the rest joined the others/hostiles because they were running out of options and needed protection.
C. Some Losties went with option A, some went with option B, and now the group is divided.
D. They actually were killed by Widmore and Co. during the “we’ll meet at the river” mess.
My money is currently on A.
Finally, I agree with everyone that ben has probably been on the island for some time now and wasn’t on that sub. I think the producers learned an important lesson with Walt (i.e. kids grow, so plan accordingly).
March 19th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
S: I am dying to find out what happened to Rose, Bernard, Vincent and the rest. I think sooner or later we’ll be seeing their story, at least I hope so. I’ve always wondered what it was in their past that kept them off the Other’s list. From what we’ve seen of them, they didn’t have any dark past history like the other Losties. So why didn’t the Other’s snatch them? The Other’s really didn’t bother the Front section as much as they did the Tailies. Claire was their major project and then Walt. Ya, it’s hard to do a show like this, like in Walts case, 2 seasons were really only 2 months in the Losties time, but 2 years for Walt in real life. You can’t look 10 forever…lol.
I look forward to Wednesday so I can see Lost. But I also look forward to reading GG’s thoughts and everyone elses just as much on Thursday.
March 19th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
This might interest you or not. But I was thinking about the Swan station and the Introduction film for it. The film states that it was made in 1980 at the end of it. Dr. Candle says in it that soon after the station was finished the Incident occurs. The computer they use to enter the numbers is an Apple II computer and I was wondering when they began production of them so I looked it up. The first one went on sale on June 6, 1977. Here’s the link in case you’d like to check it out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_II
March 19th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Holy cow, they did a great job casting that Sterling kid who plays Ben! I could have sworn it was a younger Michael Emerson.
I love the apparent sense of trust between the original Losties, just by the way they make eye contact with each other.
Here’s maybe a crazy idea, but what if a purpose of the “security system” that is the smoke monster is to make sure the past does not get changed?
March 19th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
S: I agree about Jack appearing relieved. Finally he can trust Sawyer and not be in charge.
Gary: I was thinking about a possible paradox as well. We have all seen “Back to the Future.” What if it all ends and we don’t know if it really happened or not because of so many paradox like maybe young Ben dying…
I am confused by:
1. Are Peter Chang (that checked in Jack) and Marvin Candle the same people?
2. Razinsky is the bloody spot on the ceiling in the hatch right?
Whooo Hoooo The pay off of watching all these years is definately worth it!!!!
March 19th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Hey Hurley’s Honey: If you go back and watch all the DI Indoc videos, you’ll see that Marvin Candle uses different names in them. He was Candle in the Swan movie and Halifax (sp) in the Orhid one. The coat that Ben puts on to go down to the wheel has the name Halifax on the label. It makes you wonder if he’s using different names…or…I just thought of this…could they be clones?
March 19th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Oh, ya, and yes, that bloody spot on the ceiling of the Swan station was Razinsky, Kelvin’s partner before Desmond arrived.
March 19th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
sun couldn’t go in the past because she had jin’s ring
i think sun, frank, ben et al are int he future instead of the “present”
March 19th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
By the way, I thought I might mention this. There are 3 schools of thoughts as how time works with time travel. The one they seem to be using according to what Dan said is that time is like a stream and you can’t change things and that time would course correct itself if you tried. Another is like the one they use in Back to the Future. Time is like a tree. The main (unaltered) timeline is the trunk. If you go back and change something, it sprouts out a branch from the main timeline trunk. If you change something, you’re now stuck on that limb and can’t get back to the main trunk. The third and a more recent theory is that time is like a rock being thrown into a lake. It spreads out from the center (the beginning) and all possible scenerios would be included. There’d also be networks connecting like timelines where changes occurred, they’d be ones that were close together. The opposite sides of that rock that started time would be totally opposites. Let’s say it like this, we’re on the right side of the rock that began time and that’s our current timeline. Everything that we know has happened just like it has. But on the other side, the left side of the rock, the complete opposite side, human’s never evolved, the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs in our timeline missed the Earth and the dinosaurs in that timeline evolved into the dominant intelligent species of the planet. Mammals were pretty much wiped out and survive on a lower scale as small rodent like creatures.
March 19th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Oh, another thought. Ben may not have been able to travel back to 1977 because Ben is already there on the island as a child. Your past and future selves seeing each other has always been considered a major paradox in many books and movies.
March 19th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
You know, I read my last post as to why Ben may not have gone to the past and it made me think. Sun’s father knows Mr. Widmore. We know this because of Widmore’s comment to Sun when she was in London about playing golf with him.
What if Mr. Widmore and Sun’s father both know each other because they were BOTH Others?
What if Sun was born on the island and is there as well as a child in 1977 living with the Others? She’d be very young, probably an infant still.
What do you guys think?
March 20th, 2009 at 9:55 am
GaryG: I like the “Back to the Future” theory of time bieng like a tree and alternate realities being limbs on that tree trunk. What you do in the past changes the future reality. Hence, that is why I believe that is why the island circa – 2007 that Frank, Ben, Sun, and the other plane crash survivors land on is drastically different than what it should have been like because of the decisions that were made by the Losties in 1977. Proof – the Dharma/Othersville village. It reminds me of the scene in Back to the Future II when Marty McFly bought that Sports Almanac book in the future so that he could become rich in the past (1985), but Future Biff stole it and the Deloran to travel back and alter the past. When McFly did return to 1985 it was an alternate 1985 based on the actions of Future Biff. I love talking about time traveling theories and can’t wait to watch the rest of the season to see if my theory is correct.
March 20th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Oh GaryG-
I like that thought of why Sun did not go to 1977. Maybe she is on the island. That would be very cool. I’m totalling dying to know what will become of Sun and Jin.
March 20th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
I wonder. Ben is what, around 12 in 1977? Now a bunch of the Losties are there with the DI. Jack, Kate and Hurley are using their real first and last names. It’s not like Ben is 5 or 6 when such memories are a bit fuzzy. Who wouldn’t remember Hurley? I wonder when 815 crashes on the island when Ben is an adult, does he recognize any of them. No wonder he’s so secretive with them. Hell, does he recognize Juliet? Is that why Juliet was recruited by the Others? The Others always mentioned someone that Juliet looked like, maybe Juliet looks like this someone because she is that someone. We always assume they’re talking about Annie, but what if Ben formed a crush on Juliet when he was a kid? Think about it, the effort Ben may have put in to get her back on the island. Remember him telling her, “You are MINE!” Anyhow, just a thought.
March 20th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
You know also, thinking of my last post whether Ben remembers them when he’s older – they picked Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Hurley for Micheal to bring back. So maybe Ben did remember them.
March 22nd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Didn’t the other’s camp get blown up when the commandos were storming it and Ben’s daughter died?
March 24th, 2009 at 11:37 am
I think the absence of Rose and Bernard is maybe a good thing, in a way. We know how the writers like to bring back characters that we haven’t seen in a while or that we presumed were dead; just like we know almost for sure that when they bring Claire back into the story, it’s gonna be a major twist or a surprise. I’m confident it will be the same way with R&B. And I like the idea of them actually being “Adam and Eve” back at the caves.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Foffman: If you remember way back when the found the caves and Adam and Eve, Jack found that little bag on them with those black and white stones inside it. I think he put it back with them. Ever since then, I’ve been looking for someone to find those stones. The bag those stones were in looked an aweful lot like the bag that Nikki and Palo (however their names are spelled) had their diamonds in. If you remember, Sawyer spilled the diamonds on them before they buried them, but he kept the bag. Who know what happened to that bag after that. Maybe that bag was the only reason those two were on the show…lol.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Foffman: You made me think of something and with me talking about those stones, I went back and checked. In Season 4, “The Other Woman,” Juliet is waiting to talk to Goodwin’s wife and she’s playing around with one of those small Japanese sand gardens raking the sand. There are sones in the sand and yes, there’s a black and white stone in the sand. Could this be where those stones came from? If there’s one thing we know about this show, the smallest insignificant things turn out to be major clues. One of my favorites is when Hurley and Sayid have that radio and they pick up “Moonlight Serinade” and Sayid says it could be coming from anywhere and Hurley says, “Or anytime.” That was way back in Season 1, if I remember, that they gave us a clue as to the time being something to do with the island.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Not that I put a ton of faith in gossip blogs….I still found this pretty interesting:
http://icydk.com/2009/03/20/one-of-these-lost-women-has-just-been-cast-in-another-abc-pilot/
March 29th, 2009 at 10:35 am
You know, with the introduction of Oldham, we are beginning to see the darker side of the DI. We know they have a station dedicated to weapon’s research (the Arrow wasn’t it?). We also know they built that poison gas factory, it must also be for deployment as well since Dan and Charlotte went to make it inert. That tells me the DI were planning to use it against the Others, for who else would they develop such a weapon and deployment system against on the island. Maybe developing such a weapon was a breaking of the truce that the Others and the DI had, so the Others had no choice but to use that weapon against the DI before they used it against them.
You know, so much can happen with Sayid shooting Ben. Will Ben be healed by the island showing the Others that he’s special? Does Ben die and we find out that he’s one of the living dead on the island? Does Jack save Ben? Does nearly losing Ben change Rodger’s attitude towards his son and prompt him to start treating him better and history gets changed in that way? Does Ben thinking Sayid is an Other and having him shoot him change the way he feels about the Others?
April 20th, 2009 at 5:36 am
jake, kate, and hurley were all on the original list of losties that michael was supposed to bring back to the others. along with sawyer, they’ve all been part of a core “team” of islanders. perhaps in whatever course correction the island is doing, they all need to be together. the others trapped in ‘77 are just that, trapped, but not as important.
perhaps sun is left in the present/future to help provide some kind of link back from ‘77 for the others… not exactly sure how yet.