Initial Thoughts: The Constant

Desmond episodes have been so good! I knew we were in for a treat this week.

1. No eye opening this week at the beginning.

2. I found it interesting that Desmond and co. were out in the rain exercising. Rain always seems to be a bad omen.

3. I don’t think that Desmond’s life is being course corrected by finding Daniel in the past. Desmond is exactly on the right path. He has to go AWOL in order to go to prison in order to go on the boating trip around the world in order to make it to the island.

4. Daniel, however, was put back on the correct course by Desmond being there. Desmond said he knew he was there for Daniel, but what was Daniel going to do for him? Daniel kept Desmond on his course. Desmond set Daniel on his correct course (with the numbers for his time travel device).

5. What is messing with their perception of time? The rocket timer showed a 31 minute difference, but the helicopter has been gone a whole day but in reality it’s only about 20 minutes? That could set off a whole new world of speculation about how much time passes and how old Walt is going to be when we see him. Then Sayid points out to Frank that they took off at dusk and landed in the middle of the day. Difference coming and going?

6. Speaking of Walt… kudos to my sister for this one. What if Walt is on the freighter and Desmond and Sayid find him locked up? The only way to save him is to meet with his constant - Michael. Then it could turn out that Michael is also on the freighter, but he is Ben’s “man” on the boat. The one that opened the door to let them out of the medical room. I’m thinking that Michael knows about equipment so maybe he is also the one who cut the wires thinking the freighter people were going to hurt the survivors on the island and/or Ben.

7. The guy on the freighter who first meets the helicopter when it lands doesn’t seem too surprised to find out that Sayid is a flight 815 survivor. But, he asks Frank what the heck he was thinking bringing them to the freighter. Guess that answers the question of whether they were there to save any of them or not.

8. I know I’m skipping ahead, but what if the lady that Desmond meets (last season, the psychic from the jewelry shop) that tells him he can’t go back to Penny because it would mess up the course of events… what if she was actually good? If Desmond would have gone to Penny instead of to the island at that time then he would have not kept his promise not to contact her until 8 years later. Then maybe Penny would have changed her number and he would not have been able to contact her from the freighter. He was on the right course by going on that sailboat to the island.

9. Clean cut Desmond looks really good. Much preferred to dirty, hairy Desmond.

10. Desmond and Minkowski have the sickness! Remember the sickness that Danielle’s group got so she killed them all? And… it appears that the injections/immunizations must somehow either ward off the sickness or somehow counteract it’s effects. Dr Ray was giving it to Minkowski.

11. Omar (freighter guy) says the last port was Figi so they know they are in the Pacific. The news reports, if you recall, were saying they found the plane in the Indian Ocean. I know that whoever planted the fake plane wanted to throw off the scent from the real plane, but I’m just saying that they must have been VERY far off course to not even be close to where the fake plane was found.

12. I’m so glad that Sayid called Jack and let him know that they were OK. It only makes sense that he would do that and it ties up a small loose end (especially when there are so many BIG fish to fry).

13. For any CSI fans, it was funny to see Ecklie as Dr. Ray. He was such a jerk in CSI.

14. Lots of *the* numbers in this episode. 2.342, house #423, lot 2342 on the Black Rock journal, 8 years before Desmond calls Penny… I know that there were more.

15. I wonder how many times Daniel has been to the island. It totally explains why Daniel was crying when he was watching the news report but couldn’t remember why. His brain was fried from the trips to the island. Also explains his bad memory.

16. Daniel says that you can’t change the future. But you can change the past? How does that work? And apparently time travel involves the conscience and not the body as evidenced by Eloise. But, Daniel sends Eloise forward in time to learn the maze and she comes back to run the maze. What is the point of traveling in time if it doesn’t change anything, but it does appear to change or correct things. Desmond kept trying to save Charlie because he was having visions of his death, but fate wanted what it wanted and eventually had it’s way with him. Maybe that is what Daniel meant.

17. The incoming calls from Penny to the freighter… how did she get THAT number? I’m wondering if it had something to do with the guys she had stationed in the arctic. If somehow they were trying to contact freighters in the area they thought may be near the island but it was on behalf of Penny. And why were they under strict orders not to answer?

18. Here is my theory….. Mr Widmore (Penny’s dad) is not a bad guy. We thought he was, but I started thinking otherwise when I saw that he left the water on in the bathroom. Who does that? What if he needed the Black Rock boat log to find the island. He knows that Desmond is there. He didn’t stop him because he knows that Desmond has to go there for whatever reason fate has sent him (in the end because of him the Losties are saved perhaps). Anyway, he tells Desmond in the bathroom that he is not the one that hates him (implying it’s Penny, because she is obviously hurt and mad). Then he gives Desmond her address. Not her phone number, her address. I think that Widmore knows that Desmond has to go to Penny to get the number because of the future event on the freighter (with the Christmas Eve call). It has to happen this way. He is helping Desmond to stay on course. You following me here?

19. I also think that Hanso found the island through that journal and that is why they didn’t want anyone else to see it.

20. Dang it! Why did they have to kill of Minkowski? Fisher Stevens is awesome and I was very much looking forward to seeing him in the show.

21. Poor Sayid. Running around a freighter with these two nuts that weave in and out of consciousness.

22. Penny has a red door. Bad! Hopefully it means nothing.

23. It looks like future Penny is wearing a wedding ring.

24. I was getting all teary eyed when Desmond called Penny. Such an awesome scene! Still the best show on tv bar none.

25. Sayid gets the phone working and lets Desmond call his love. He could have called for help, but decides this call is more important. I am happy that he did, but I worry that when Ben told Sayid (in the future flash) to remember the last time he thought with his heart before his head what happened… I’m hoping that this call doesn’t lead to very bad things.

26. Penny says she has been looking for the past three years for Desmond, but he has been gone for eight. I’m guessing we will see what happened three years ago that prompted her to look for him. And she says that she was *researching* the island and then when Charlie called she knew he was alive & she wasn’t crazy. She will find them, but will it involve the Oceanic Six?

27. Desmond is Daniel’s constant. I’ve got to go back now and watch Daniel’s reaction when he first meets Desmond. I don’t remember it being significant but maybe Daniel forgot him and that is why he wrote it down. But, I also think we saw the journal to show that Desmond traveling “back” in time was real.

28. Next week looks really good too! Jack asks Juliet what she knows but Juliet is the one with a gun to Charlotte telling her to make Daniel stop whatever he is doing. I also heard a siren much like the one that was in the hatch.

29. Thanks for not making fun of my prior theory of Ben being able to time travel. I guess this week proves to me that I was right. He must have to go back in time, though, to get the money that Miles wants. The island is probably Ben’s constant and that is why he wanted to make sure to protect it. But when was he exposed to radiation? My sister thinks that he could have gone through radiation treatment for his back at some point.

13 Responses to “Initial Thoughts: The Constant”

  1. Heather Says:

    Regarding #26: It’s true that Des got Penny’s new phone number in 1996 — eight years ago, based on the 2004 timeline — but we know that they saw each other again after that, at least once more: the night that he and Jack met, when he (Des) was training for the sailing contest that Penny’s dad was sponsoring. That was probably 2001, which explains the three years that Penny was looking for him, and also corroborates his claim that he was on the island for three years prior to our Losties crash-landing there.

  2. Foffman Says:

    Holy cow, how long can they keep on this roll? This season has been awesome. Great recap, too!

    As if this show wasn’t already confusing, it’s really starting to get hard for me to follow. I love it though; it’s what makes the show awesome.

    And… Has Daniel already been exposed to radiation to the point where he’s loopy? Because if so, I missed that. As far as I know, he’s still just regular ol’ Daniel type of loopy, not radiation type of loopy. This is my fourth use of the word “loopy” in one paragraph…

    Peace!

  3. Gillian Says:

    Regarding #23: Penny was not wearing a wedding ring. That was the first thing I looked for when she picked up the phone. I kept looking during the whole scene too. She had a ring on her right hand, but her left hand and ring finger were ringless.

  4. dane Says:

    i never read your thing about ben being able to time travel but i don’t think i would have made fun of it. uh…it would make sense since the money show up in the room and then the frames change in that one episode…man that episode was so great, i teared up too 4 shore.

  5. Ciuxi Says:

    it’s possible that ben is travelling in time, but it’s no way that he could carry money for miles or anything else….just memories. great episode . i can’t wait for the next one

  6. dane Says:

    did you get into the Lost experience web site thingie at all? I didn’t, but it seems chock full of answers about the freighter dudes. Like this lil’ statement:

    “Best I can tell, they’re taking a new ship on an old route, but why, to find what? And what is it about this ship’s design that makes it so special? At this point, I can’t help but feeling that they’re gonna get away with whatever they’re trying to do, and that can’t happen.”

    the freighter that the Paik company made for the Hanso foundation is following the route of the Black Rock, with Mittlewerk in control instead of Hanso…

    Yeah, I’m thinkin’ a lot of the answers to questions about the freighties lie in Rachel Blake’s videos…

    ON A SEPARATE NOTE: How awesome would a Black Rock episode be? Like a old-timey period piece from the point of view of that first mate Hanso guy?! And that could be the first time they show like, crazy wormhole special effects of going to and from the island and stuff. idk, that’d be awesome. it’d cost a lot though. it could be like a season finale or something.

  7. Phil Says:

    in the uk we havent seen it yet, but i like to read the site first, something has just jumped out to me from the pics of Minkowski in the bed and noticed the red bag on the hand towel dispenser. this is the same as the one found by jack which was dropped with daniel. was the pack some kind of medi pack for if they go nut going to the island rather than coming bck from the island. just made me think that was all….

  8. Hugo Hurley Says:

    heather - great points .. i was trying to wrap my head around that timeline all night after the episode .. you hit it right on the head .. or at least i think so right now ..

    foffman - i think daniel might be exposed to radiation from all the eloise tests ?? remember when he puts on that body suit and des says to him ‘well what do you wear for your head?’ .. that might have been significant …

  9. Nate Says:

    Hugo and GG-

    I don’t think its just that Daniel was exposed to radiation from his experiments with Eloise. I think he actually turns the experiment onto HIMSELF at some point…similar to how Sam Beckett does it in Quantum Leap. I think he has to find out for himself what its like and that is when he starts “leaping” through time. It’s right before that that he probably rights “Desmond is my constant if anything goes wrong” because obviously he doesn’t want to go the way of the rat.

  10. Gitsie Girl Says:

    Wow, these comments are great and this episode was great and the season has been great! Great, great, great! I don’t mind the time travel thing as much as I thought I would. I remember reading and/or watching an interview with Damon Lindelof in season one and he said that everything in the show could be explained. Well, I wondered, how could this be explained. But I’m sure there are lots of theorists out there that can explain time travel. Some people believe in reincarnation and some might even be able to explain through science. But no matter, I don’t know that I need it explained to the nth degree. I’m OK with the time travel. I want to believe!

    Now, about that smoke monster….

  11. Heather Says:

    Hugo: Glad to have helped sort it out for you a bit. :)

    Regarding Foffman’s question about Dan’s exposure to radiation: They made a point during the episode to show that 1996 Daniel was being exposed to radiation “20 times a day” during his research work with Eloise; he explained that this was why he was putting on the lead apron, at which point Desmond asked why Dan wasn’t also protecting his head…

    I guess we’re supposed to surmise from this that Daniel’s irradiated his mind to some degree, which probably explains the memory experiments that he and Charlotte were doing with the deck of cards.

  12. Phil Says:

    Just watched it now and it come to me. the rat died because daniel did not carry out what he said he was going to de. he was going to show the rat in one hour how to complete the maze, yet cos the rat did it from the radiation and it’s own flash forward it then died, so everyone has a path to follow and i think sayid knows this and is being blackmailed by ben that he has to do what he says (kill who he says) in order to not go mad and die, ben is telling them what their constants are in order to stay alive and the island is keeping them safe or so they think? wow to the writers for keeping me on the very edge bit of my seat i dont normally use that much. and i have started to eat more fish cos that is supposed to be brain food and it helps me thinking more.. keep it up i think it’s healthy for my brain. thanks…

  13. seananigans Says:

    bt the number for penny 79460893 doesnt exist,he metions its a london number which for some reason sayid an iraqi knows the area code ,but the fullnumber is 004420879460893 tried coming up as phone number not valid ,also at the start of the episode desmond originally rang her ld number and you can clearly hear the tones of the keys,anyone whos not lazy might wanna figure out what they are and try ringing it

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